![]() ![]() R21 Absolutely, Hepburn the Elder of course, not the Younger. Gotta' be a few old timers out there in the know. Seriously who gives a shit about these young guys today? We should get an elder thread going with so good dirt about the old days. Have a good friend who was a lover of a famous gay/bi actor who dished tons of stories about Grant, Powers, Tracy, Hepburn, Pigeon, Flynn, Hudson and lesser luminaries. ![]() ![]() Apparently Grant went through copious therapies, including Acid trips (believe it or not experimental therapy in the 60s) that I always read as trying to rid himself of the lavender beast. I always read mutually bearding into that. Loren of all women? Hepburn the Elder once wrote a letter to another actress saying that "got lucky" in avoiding Grant. I never bought that Loren story but when she published those letters it was pretty clear. The 1920s and 30s were a comparatively free time. And H'wood became increasingly homophobic through the 1940s/50s. ![]() When his star ascended and it was clear he was going to be a superstar the relationship had to be tamed. Less remembered, Scott was a bigger star than Grant at first. They were very deeply in love-I don't think they ever fell out of love with one another in fact. R14 and R16 it was Carol Lombard's joke about how notoriously cheap Grant was. ![]()
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